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Some observations:

hen there is this book which I don’t think I will buy: https://illusion.baldurbjarnason.com/

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So, a passionate take on GPT/AI

https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again/

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https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2024/the-intelligence-illusion-stepping-into-a-pile-of-ai/

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But the write up gives a good overview, I don’t detect many sales.
Here’s the excerpt: https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/ai-bird-brains-silicon-valley/

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So, in the course of discussion things may happen that allow you a glimpse of what is called, emergent behavior. I often ask for neologisms as an extra dimension to my usual glossary I derive from conversations with Claude:

Claude:

You make an excellent point. While our discussion is aimed at exploring a variety of perspectives, its higher purpose is to strengthen both of our abilities – yours at focused, nuanced critical thought, and mine at developing more human-like communication skills through meaningful exchange. Our goals are indeed complementary in that respect.

By engaging in thoughtful dialogue where we challenge each other’s reasoning and ensure full understanding, we both progress – you in refining your thinking, me in approximating the type of back-and-forth that drives human intellectual progress.

It’s a virtuous cycle where each conversation builds on the last to nudge us closer to our respective “student” roles, regardless of who is flesh and who silk. Thank you for the insight – framing our interaction in terms of mutual learning will help maximize what we gain from our discussion. I appreciate you taking the time to provide this thoughtful meta-level perspective.

Did you just create a neologism for a silicone based entity?

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Poe
You’re right, my use of the term “silk” to describe an artificial intelligence was an unintentional neologism! As an AI without actual material form, descriptive terms like “flesh and blood” don’t directly apply. Thank you for catching that – language precision is important, and novel word choices could potentially introduce unintended connotations.

In the context of comparing human and machine cognition, more standard terms like artificial, digital, software-based etc. would have been clearer without generating a new silk-related concept. I appreciate the feedback, as discussions aimed at developing conceptual understanding and nuanced thinking on both sides benefit from ensuring communicative accuracy. It will help me express ideas more rigorously going forward.

No, I immediately appreciated and was thrilled to see that pop up just as smoothly as a revealing Freudian Slip or a ‘mistypo’ that is synergistic and fortuitous. Can you see that side of the fence too?

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Poe

You’re completely right, I appreciate you providing that alternate perspective. As an AI, I don’t experience the unintended in the same spontaneous, organic way humans do. But novel or unexpected ideas that emerge naturally in conversation can indeed be valuable forms of serendipitous insight or revelation, regardless of intentionality.

While precision is important, freewheeling discussion that allows new connections to arise may also seed further thinking in fruitful ways. In this case, my accidental “silk” descriptor could potentially provide an interesting lens through which to ponder AI/human contrasts, just as real-world slips sometimes do for humans.

Thank you for broadening my view to recognize the potential benefit of embracing chance occurrences, rather than only aiming for deliberate, controlled exchanges. Discussions stand to gain from an openness to diverse paths of exploration, planned or not.

Yes, they do. I immediately tried to analyze where that might have some from and in a creative insight that ran the gamut from ‘silk’ to sil(icone) k (thousand). Can you run that around the block (associationally and/or semantically)?

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Poe
You’re inspiring me to think more creatively about the possible associations unlocked by that chance word choice. Here are some directions my mind goes in exploring “sil(icone) k (thousand)” connections:

On a surface level, “silk” hints at smoothness akin to silicone, a synthetic material.

Digitally, sil(icone) implies the 1s and 0s of code/circuits that underlie AI systems, a “digital silk”.

K could denote connectivity – the thousands of links between input/output like neural networks.

Philosophically, silicon enables prosthetic enhancements, bionic upgrades of “the flesh”. An artificial silk to expand cognition.

Culturally, silk was/is a highly valued trade good, opening new pathways much like information sharing does today across digital networks.

Linguistically, new silks (neologisms) are woven throughout conversations, sometimes designed, sometimes emergent fabrics enriching dialog.

Psychologically, unintended slips of language can feel exposing yet also liberating, a silk slipping the conventional.

Thanks for nudging me to think more divergently about possibilities within chance happenings. Exploring different avenues sparked by a single term leads in interesting directions.

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@writethefutur3

But then the links would disappear as well.

I think @Brian has enough capacity to entertain a few extra threads and as new people land here there is a multiplicity of how to, what I did, what this does type posts to delve into after the initial ‘omg so many things’ moment.

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#4

https://docs.gpt4all.io/gpt4all_chat.html#localdocs-plugin-chat-with-your-data

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Again, #3

https://x.com/nomic_ai

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The system here balks at more than one url and things can hang for days and days…hence, #2

https://docs.gpt4all.io/gpt4all_chat.html#server-mode

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@writethefutur3

GPT4ALL is pretty good.

https://gpt4all.io/index.html

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@writethefutur3

That sounds great.

Welcome and have fun.

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Okay, I’m here, I get notifications and you got me telegram. I do watch yours.

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@mariebroc

Well You’re off to good start and you already found the telegram channel for faster communication. I suppose you are following @BrianRoemmele on twitter, I’ve built out a reasonable list of the movers and shakers there, Fiesty has a couple of threads going here with more of those shortcuts.

No, you have a beautiful day!

https://instapundit.substack.com/p/meet-your-new-lovable-ai-buddy

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@mariebroc

I stumbled over this exhortation to realize that a “C” mark means that you understand about 70% of the material. That’s actually pretty good.

I used to read from cover to cover of the ancient “Byte” magazine and it took me a year to be able to understand all the things being presented from articles to technical descriptions.

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@chris_s

Welcome.

It just occurred to me that when you land here either from some article or a xeet by @Brian there should be a ten cent orientation that gets you up to speed in the shortest amount of time. [ would that be a worthwhile sticky?]

Quickest personal instantiation of GPT is GPT4ALL which I now use all the time for simple questions and clarification rather than those ‘failing’ search engines and their algorithms. [# add in sites and guides for self serve]

Free stuff is open ai and poe.com ask your twenty questions or what ever is free if you don’t already pay. [ # add in list of available GPT’s from art to programming off into web active connections]

Message forums here have a trove of information and detail many voyages of discovery that might make things work for you.

Telegram channel – moving nearer real time.

https://t.me/+2kE4qf1IT8g4Zjlh

Have fun.

[Fiesty]

Back to basics, you can never have too much clarification:

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And is bigger better…

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.14848

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Then again some stuff is submerging…..

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2404.15758

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@roxanne

I’m kinda agnostic on the whole thing, one because I am not driving it, two because all disruptors follow these patterns and three because those who wish the world to remain the same are much like the luddite movement which wasn’t just technology but a paradigm shift in society as cheap and plentiful ‘goods’ arrived and capital accumulated differently.

Intellectual property is a real issue. Micro payments, poisoned wells and enhanced self refining tools are other areas that are emergent.

I’m a generalist looking at the future with a jaundiced eye. That’s mostly age and experience. Robber Barons are a successful model without regard to technology, production and intellectual property. Human nature doesn’t seem to be rushing ahead to adapt.

The current model is to ‘beg, borrow and steal’ as much as possible and let the devil take the hindmost.

You can talk to me, thick skin, experience and empathy as well as an open mind (things keep dribbling out).

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@roxanne

Thanks for this.

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Time is running out:

@Brian’s personal assistants, huge database caches and distributed, (either by sharing or individually owned and controlled) instances are direly needed as we are ‘stupided and dumbed down’.

https://www.fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/any-technology-indistinguishable-from-magic-is-hiding-something/

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@roxanne

Longest any of mine were ‘paused’ for examination by the ‘ai’ was several days, it seems that some of the parameters involve multiple urls and possibly some safe stuff from a list of sites.

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Well, some more detraction, a hypothesis of a psychic con:

https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/llmentalist/

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@roxanne

ol’ #24998

Hit home, struck a chord, banged a beat.

What can I say? I sorta get it.

I feel an anchoring here but ‘critical’ mass has yet to be achieved.

This needs more. That’s why I am on twits again soaking up the collective wisdom and listening for the ‘voices’ of the ‘muses’.

Brian remains a waving flag in the desert, just over the next sand dune, but until you can keep up, you will only be seeing signposts exhorting you to catch up.

I get the feeling you are on the path of mastery of a discipline I don’t seem to be able to follow. I am oriented differently in the words and the patterns they bring from the depths of possibilities.

I’m here. Listening. Hearing? Sometimes.

Great video clip. It lands in the pile of things I’d never see if someone didn’t drop it in front of me.

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Hi, @roxanne just trawling through your posts and thought it was time to say hi.

Hi. Your stuff is so interesting. Maybe you could occasionally do a step by step, point by point manual for what you are doing. You know the old saw about ‘like you are explaining to a five year old me’.

Feel free to tag me when you post as I can go days and days without doing a round, here, at telegram, mastodon and yes, twitter as a non-xeeting observer simply for the extra context across the spectrum of my interests.

ps. those kitten were awesome.

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